View Full Version : Trivia Time! - Owner's Manual
5bird7
Oct 14, 2002, 07:59 AM
Thought I'd try to find out from everyone some information on the print edition of your owner's manuals while you still know where it is.
Mine is 3rd printing - March 2002
our car was built May 20, 2002
part# 2W6J19A321-AC
If your's is different than any previously posted, please post your info - it's printed on the back of your Owner's Guide.
You'll find your approx. build date in the lower right corner of your window sticker invoice if you don't know your car's exact build date (add about 10 days to that date). If you don't have that window sticker, then you can use the month/year that is on the door tag on your driver's side door.
or you can ask Quickdraw or MichaelM for your exact build date.
or check any service record receipts on the car from your dealership.
By posting your dates and print edition, we can get an idea when a new printing started appearing in the cars as they came off the assembley line. This may be important trivia info sometime down the road.
UPDATE:
1st printing - April 2001 - 2W6J19A321-AB
latest date found in car so far: 10/19/01
2nd printing - July 2001 - 2W6J19A321-AB
earliest date: Nov. 20, 2001
Latest Date: Mar. 21, 2002
3rd printing - March 2002 - 2W6J19A321-AC
earliest date: April 10, 2002
latest date: August 12, 2002
4th printing - Sept 2002 - 2W6J-19A321-AD
earliest date: Oct 10, 2002
latest date: Oct 10 2002
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2003
1st printing October 2002 #3W6J-19A321-AA
earliest date found in car: Nov. 21,2002
latest date found in car: Feb 04, 2003
Second Printing - - -February 2003 3W6J-19A321-AB
Earliest Build Date - May 19, 2003
latest build date - May 19, 2003
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2004
First Printing - June 2003 # 4W6J-19A321-AB
earliest date: 8/6/03
latest date: ????
Second Printing October 2003 4W6J-19A321-DA
earliest date: 01/13/04
latest date: 06/07/2004
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2005
First Printing - 5W6J-19A321-AA April 2004
earliest date:provably obvious but first report so far is August 2004
latest date:Feb 1, 2005
2nd Printing - SW6J-19A321-AB December 2004
earliest date: April 2005
latest date: end of production
NC2k2TBird
Oct 14, 2002, 08:10 AM
My owner's manual was printed March 2002 and is the Third Printing
My car was built and off the production line on
June 19, 2002
ThunderBubba
Oct 14, 2002, 08:52 AM
Funny you should bring this up. While at a Sonic Drive-In outing there were 3 of us 02 Bird owners there. Joel wanted to program his seat belt alarm differently and when we were reading the manuals the directions to do this were on different pages. We had 3 Birds there and 3 different owners manuals. Will check mine and post the printing date.
MATBird
Oct 14, 2002, 09:02 AM
My Owners Guide is dated July 2001 - Since it appears that there may be different manuals, let's add to the trivia to see how many different ones there are. Mine is Manual No. 2W6J-19A321-AB
Gobird
Oct 14, 2002, 09:35 AM
Mine is the July 2001 second printing. Car was built in Jan. 2002
5bird7
Oct 14, 2002, 09:36 AM
MATbird - please post your build date, too. And is yours 1st or 2nd printing? or does it say?
I edited and added my part # to my first message - thought they'd be the same but they're not.
for anybody that wants to add "color" to their post, read the faqs page - BB code. (http://www.thunderbirdnest.com/forums/faq.php?page=misc#1) it's a simple add to your replies.
SixPac
Oct 14, 2002, 09:50 AM
Build date - November 20, 2001.
Part # 2W6j-19A321-AB
July 2001 - Second Printing.
Also noticed that the "Scheduled Maintenance Guide" and the "2002 - Model Warranty Guide" have dates and printing info numbers.
FordMan7
Oct 14, 2002, 11:01 AM
Mine is 3rd printing, March 2002
T-bird was build May 7, 2002
FordMan7:fordsrule:
YLO BRD
Oct 14, 2002, 12:46 PM
Mine is 2nd printing
part #2W6J-19A321-AB
Build date- 1/28/02
Joybird
Oct 14, 2002, 01:19 PM
Mine is in another garage will let you know tomorrow. Joy
MATBird
Oct 14, 2002, 02:12 PM
5Bird7:
To answer your question I will post all of the data to save you looking back:
Book 2W6J-19A231-AB 2nd Printing July 2001
Build date I don't have but Certificate of Origin is 2-14-02 (Valentines day)
Vin 1FAHP60A52Y111681 Rotation No. 1821
Triple Black
I had ordered mine and waited 16 months and it never came. Found this one with 3 miles on it at a dealer in Augusta ME. Then cancelled my order. That order is now built and due in this week to the dealer in MA so there's a triple Black available here.
Thanks 5Bird7
15AGAIN
Oct 14, 2002, 08:32 PM
Build date of 10/19/01, I picked up on 11/19/01 in Beaver, OK.
VIN # 1FAHP60A92Y104359
Owners Manual # 2W6J-19A321-AB
April 2001, 1st Printing
:pbj::wavey:
Joybird
Oct 15, 2002, 02:09 PM
Mine is April 2001
First Printing
2W6J-19A321-AB
10/01
DavidA
Oct 15, 2002, 03:30 PM
My car was built in June 2001, delivered in October (After the recall).
Manual is April 2001, First Printing.
It would be interesting to compare the three to see what's changed.
brd4jk
Oct 15, 2002, 04:50 PM
mine is the 2nd editon july 2001
bird was built 3-01-02
5bird7
Nov 15, 2002, 05:49 PM
Just found out today that there is a 4th printing of the owners manual, so any new owners, please let me know what the date is on your manual and when your car was built.
I have listed the earliest and latest dates in the first message, so if you have a date that is earlier or later for any of the reprints, be sure to post your info here.
thanks,
btw - the latest owner's manual is available on Ford's owner's website as a pdf file. This is the 4th version.
Hobobob
Nov 16, 2002, 06:08 AM
Dot, My wife just ran off with my car and a younger guy. When she finds out she made a mistake and brings the car back, I'll check the owners manual for you. It should be the 1st edition since the vin # is 1532.
fums6
Nov 16, 2002, 03:55 PM
My manual is dated July 2002. The build date is the same as Brd4jk's, 3-1-02.
5bird7
Nov 17, 2002, 01:03 AM
fums6 - when did you buy your 'bird?
and what is the part# on it as we haven't had any reported with July 2002.
Also, what printing does it say it has?
ThunderBubba
Nov 17, 2002, 01:17 AM
I hate it when I have one of those "Senior Moments". So it's only been over a month.
My Owners Guide is:
July 2001
Second Printing
Part # 2W6J-19A321-AB
FUN X 3
Nov 17, 2002, 03:04 AM
My bird was manufactured in April 02, purchased in July 02.
March 2002
Third Printing
Part Number same as above, but ends in- AC
DLJames
Feb 22, 2003, 12:01 PM
Thanks to a break in the weather, I just picked up my 2002 T-Bird on Thursday 02/20/03. Vin#29576 Date from window sticker 10/14/02
Fourth Printing
September 2002
2W6J-19A321-AD
232 pages, pages 231 & 232 are blank, index ends on page 230
It does have a warning message on page 20 and 28 about the CD's. A portion of it reads "Irregular shaped CDs, CDs with a scratch protection film attached, and CDs with homemade paper (adhesive) labels should not be inserted into the CD player."
That caught my attention because someone was talking in another thread this week about receiving a special mailing on the CD's.
BLUNBIRD
Feb 22, 2003, 04:30 PM
Yup - received my mailer on that yesterday.:nono: :nono:
5bird7
Feb 22, 2003, 06:01 PM
Thanks, David, for the new listing for the manuals.
dartguy699
Feb 22, 2003, 09:35 PM
date on window sticker 08-12-2002
delivery date 11-24-02
date on manual march 2002 third printing
part # 2w6j-19a321-ac
number on package of manual &cd 2w6j19g219ah aug 13 2002
jim
5bird7
Oct 13, 2003, 05:52 AM
Time to add some more data to this thread. Still looking for more "early" and "late" dates for the 02s plus haven't collected any info from the 03 and 04 owners. So 03 and 04 owners, get your manuals out and check the back for the printing dates and order #s, please.
Thanks,
lovebirds
Oct 13, 2003, 06:55 AM
Dot,
Built 02-04-03
Delivered: 05-07-03
October 2002
First Printing
#3W6J-19A321-AA
Dot, you are a wealth of information......
Lloyd
'03 Torch Red/Performance White/Partial Red Accent
'57 Dusk Rost
5bird7
Oct 13, 2003, 07:35 AM
thanks, lovebirds. This is how I get my info - from everyone - I just try to keep it in one spot.
SixPac
Oct 13, 2003, 11:51 AM
Build Date: 12/02/02
Del. Date : 01/13/03
Manual : October 2002
First Printing
# 3W6J-19A321-AA
brdnhand
Oct 13, 2003, 03:25 PM
2004 Merlot
Del Date: 9/22/03
Manual: June 2003 First Printing
# 4W6J-19A321-AB
Catbyrd
Oct 13, 2003, 04:26 PM
Build date per car driver's door is January 2003
Manual: October 2002 First Printing 2003 Owners Guide
2003 Thunderbird Owners Guide
3W6J-19A321-AA
Purchased July 6, 2003
(Was driven by owner of dealership 924 miles first.)
Bonus T Bird sighting:
Funny thing happened just now when I just went outside to get the manual to answer this thread, a 2004 VMG just pulled up to the office complex. She just sold her red 1965 TBird and got a new one. Gave her a Tbirdnest.com card. She said to look for "sweet pea" on these message boards for her new car (rather than scarlett for the old car). It's still parked outside! I can't take my eyes off of it! Hope KarylP got her VMG today! :pbj: :pink:
Cappellin
Oct 13, 2003, 04:36 PM
Dot...
Car built: 1/17/03
Owner's Guide: October 2002
First Printing
# 3W6J-19A321-AA
luvbird
Oct 14, 2003, 05:04 AM
My owners manual is the first addition, April 1, 2001, 2W6J-19A321-AB
My car was delivered in November 2001.
I would be interested in seeing the difference.
5bird7
Oct 14, 2003, 07:38 AM
Some info not covered in the first edition was added to later editions but I don't have the different editions to make the comparisons with. I do know that page numbers are different as page numbers referenced by some weren't the same for others.
5bird7
Aug 5, 2004, 11:25 AM
Thought I'd bring this one back up.
The 2004 owner's manual appears to be in it's 2nd printing so need more data from 2004 owners.
Look on the back of your manual to find
the printing information:
I need your
Build Date:
and the manual date
plus part #
and whether it's 1st or 2nd printing or even 3rd?
Also need some more data from 2003 owners whose cars were built in April, May or June 2003
AZT442
Aug 6, 2004, 08:34 AM
Dot,
Here's the data on our owner's manual:
PCR #442
Built 02/13/2004
Manual 4W6J-19A321-DA
Second printing, October 2003
SixPac
Aug 6, 2004, 10:03 AM
Dot,
PCR #120
Build date: 01/13/04
Other info requested is the same as in post #36 above.
5bird7
Aug 6, 2004, 10:20 AM
Thanks, Pete & Charlie. I can see where we could have a contest to who has the earliest or latest build dates for their manuals.
5bird7
Aug 7, 2004, 12:19 PM
Still need some data from 03 and 04 owners. I know there are more of you out there. (hope you're reading this thread & forum). Look in the 1st message as that's where I've been compiling it when it comes in.
first message (http://www.thunderbirdnest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2943&postcount=1)
K.P.
Aug 7, 2004, 01:04 PM
Sorry, Dot, the manual for my 04 (PCR) is still in its' original shrinkwrap packaging, and there it shall stay!
I made them leave it untouched at the dealer when I bought it.
5bird7
Aug 7, 2004, 01:24 PM
Karyl, can you read thru the shrink wrap? It's printed on the back of the manual or are you saying that the case the manual comes in, is shrink wrapped?
K.P.
Aug 7, 2004, 01:45 PM
Inside the plastic in order from back to front are: the black manual cover -has embroidered Blueoval Ford logo - , several 5x7 cards of some sort (can't see what--wait--I think one is the seat belt instruction card), then the '2004 model year Scheduled maintenance guide', then the manual, then the '2004 Quick Reference Guide', then the '2004 Interactive Owner Experience' audio cd.
Now, Dot, on the front of the packaged bundle is a (top half white and bottom half grey )sticker, which reads as follows (black printing):
2004 Thunderbird
{bar code}
4W6J19G219DA
U.S. {space} Feb 09, 2004
INTERACTIVE
AUDIO CD
ENCLOSED
Does this help any, Dot?
I'm planning on NEVER opening this. I figure if I ever sell this car, whomever buys it will be very appreciative of me NOT opening it. Plus, you never know...In 15 years, this being original could fund a few retirement years!!
5bird7
Aug 7, 2004, 01:54 PM
yes, it does - not for this project but for another one. Thank you for the description!
JimC
Aug 19, 2004, 05:18 AM
Dot
02 built on 4/10/02
March 2002
Third Printing
Owners Guide
2W6J-19A321-AC
RustyFrye
Aug 20, 2004, 06:29 AM
2003 MSG w/Saddle
Built in February (just like me in '55)
Became mine on May 12, 2003
Manual - October 2002 First Printing
My T
Aug 20, 2004, 08:09 AM
Second Printing - - -February 2003
Build Date - May 19, '03
3W6J-19A321-AB
K.P.
Aug 20, 2004, 09:06 PM
:nono: SOMEBODY (who shall remain nameless) opened my shrinkwrapped books :box::cussing: to get at the owners' manual. So I might as well look....
October 2003
Second printing
4W6J-19A321-DA
K.P.
Aug 27, 2004, 08:48 AM
Dot,
That "someone" ordered for me, from the publisher, a new set (still in shrinkwrap!) Interestingly, order number is the same (4W6J19A321DA). NO interactive cd. Date on package front is Dec 19, 2003 (date on one that came with my car is Feb 09, 2004). Black "Ford" logo case is NOT packaged inside the shrinkwrap (like the original), but WAS sent with it.
This supposedly has more stuff in it that we haven't seen yet. Jerry says they said at the publisher that there was stuff in the package that "we would like".
Dare I open it?
nope.
THNDRBRD02
Aug 27, 2004, 03:17 PM
Build Date 06/07/04
Manual, October 2003 Second printing
4W6J-19A321-DA
trpar
Aug 27, 2004, 10:07 PM
My manual lists October 2002, First printing. My build date was 11/21/02.
Part# 3W6J-19A321-AA
5bird7
Mar 4, 2005, 04:17 PM
Usually try to bring this up in the winter and it's almost over. Does anyone have more data to add to what has been collected so far?
I don't have the build dates and owner manual print editions for any of the 05s (and they are into their 2nd printing now).
R-04-Merlot
Mar 4, 2005, 05:10 PM
2004 Merlot
Built On: 8/6/2003
June 2003 First Printing
4W6J-19A321-AB
5bird7
Mar 4, 2005, 06:05 PM
Keep it coming. I just updated the first post with the info that was posted here from last August (sorry it took so long) and Rhonda's post above.
5bird7
Mar 8, 2005, 07:52 PM
I'm going to bring this up again. Haven't heard from any 2005 owners and I know you have manuals. Lets get them out and check the printing dates on the back and add to this thread.
Thanks,
Dot
5bird7
Oct 28, 2005, 12:21 PM
2005 owners - Need your input here.
islandtime
Oct 28, 2005, 01:07 PM
My '05 owner's guide was printed in April 2004, and was first printing. Number on back is 5W6J-19A321-AA
5bird7
Oct 28, 2005, 01:15 PM
Elle, When was your 05 built?
5bird7
Oct 29, 2005, 09:00 AM
Not getting much info from the 05 owners. I need the build date of your car when you post your info.
This is what I have so far:
Inca Gold built Feb 1 has first printing in theirs, like Elle's.
Inca Golds built in late April, 05 have 2nd printing in theirs. 2nd printing is dated December 2004
Now you can see where the build date helps for knowing which printing went with which build date.
TOM SIRCHIA
Oct 29, 2005, 03:46 PM
2005 Torch Red, Premium with full accent & select shift.
Build Date 12/09/2004.
Owners guide #5W6J-19A321-AA and the first printing is stated as April 2004.
P.S. Thanks DOT for all the time, effort and enthusiasm you devote to the TBN.
It's greatly appreciated!! Tom.
islandtime
Oct 30, 2005, 09:22 AM
Elle, When was your 05 built?
Dot, unfortunately I have misplaced the exact information, and the specific post about my bird has been removed from the other site. I have no idea why. I do remember that it was ordered sometime in June of '04, built sometime in August , and delivered to dealer on Sept. 4th of '04 (I remember that date, as it is our anniversary).
5bird7
Oct 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
Thanks Elle, that's close enough since we can probably assume that the 1st print edition was there from the beginning of 05 production.
I'm just trying to narrow down the time frame between the 1st and 2nd print edition. Think a number of the cashmere owners could help with that one.
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