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Old Jun 15, 2016, 08:42 AM   #26
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I have finally decided to replace "apparently" perfect original equipment Michelins with only 7000 miles on them. I am just not at ease driving with 13 year old tires at highway speeds. I will deal with the spare tire issue later.
The reviews here of the Pilot sound great but at about $800, I am thinking about other well known brands (Bridgestone, Cooper, Goodyear, etc) for almost half of that. I don't plan on driving with icy conditions, off road or do any racing about. Just mellow cruising on paved highways and interstates.
Are there any well known brands that I should steer clear of?
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 08:58 AM   #27
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Bob: You are sure to get lots of first hand opinions. If price is not the deceiding factor I would go with the Pilot Sport A/S 3's in the 255 series.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 09:48 AM   #28
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My next set will be the Cooper Zeons that Ron has been using. My tires will age out before they wear out. The Coopers are good quality at a reasonable price.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 02:16 PM   #29
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I have four sets of Cooper tires and I am very happy. Three sets of Uniroyal and not so happy.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 02:52 PM   #30
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27, 28 and 29:

Thanks all for the helpful comments! Pilots may cost around $1000 installed around here. Discount Tire is offering to put on Yokohamas (YK 530) for $645. Les Schwab will put on Toyos for about $950. Since I am primarily looking for "tire peace of mind" at 70-75 mph under mostly dry conditions, maybe a surprise rain shower here and there, I'm thinking the Pilots may be more tire that I am driver. I will look into Coopers on my next outdoor adventure, Zeons I presume? It will be a few more days probably before I decide.

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Old Jun 15, 2016, 03:35 PM   #31
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Here's a link to the Coopers in the original 235/50-17 size. Also available in 235/55-17 for the same price. Many feel that the larger size fills the wheel well opening to better effect.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...=007901&cs=235
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 09:21 PM   #32
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I put the Cooper RS3 A's on our '03 Mach 1 and was really impressed, considering the cost. A thousand times better than the Toyo's I replaced the original "skaterbacks" with. I put the RS3 A's in the stock size on the bird and I like them just as much. I haven't driven on the Michelins so I can't compare, but I think for the money, the Coopers are hard to beat.
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Old Jun 16, 2016, 06:57 AM   #33
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31and 32,

Thanks for your thoughts. Coopers are sure sounding good.

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Old Jun 16, 2016, 07:46 AM   #34
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Have the Cooper CS 5's - love them
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Old Jun 16, 2016, 10:26 AM   #35
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Just put 4 Cooper CS5s on mine last week. 235/55's and though can't tell much difference in ride from Falkens that were on it when I bought the car, the noise is significantly reduced. I have ordered KYB struts which should go on next week, then taking a drive out west for some time away. I feel much better with the Coopers now, and safer. I have a friend with a tire shop who does my work, who has a guy working part time who is a long time Ford tech and knows Thunderbirds. My second set of Coopers - first was on my 2008 F150 20" to replace sorry Pirelli Scorpion OEM tires.
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Old Jun 16, 2016, 06:39 PM   #36
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Thanks everybody! Today I ordered a set of Cooper Zeon RS3A's.

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Old Jun 16, 2016, 09:22 PM   #37
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Bob, please let us know what you think of them. It will help or discount my opinion for future purchases. I was originally wanting the RS3S's, but my tire guy talked me out of them for the RS3A's. By the way, I had a slow bead leak on one of them and took it back to get fixed. He immediately knew what the cause was and showed me the tiny bar code sticker that Cooper puts right on the bead of the tire. They didn't get that one pulled off. They cleaned it up and no problems since. Thank God, I was suspicious of a leaky chrome wheel.
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Old Jun 17, 2016, 01:20 PM   #38
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Bob, please let us know what you think of them. It will help or discount my opinion for future purchases. I was originally wanting the RS3S's, but my tire guy talked me out of them for the RS3A's. By the way, I had a slow bead leak on one of them and took it back to get fixed. He immediately knew what the cause was and showed me the tiny bar code sticker that Cooper puts right on the bead of the tire. They didn't get that one pulled off. They cleaned it up and no problems since. Thank God, I was suspicious of a leaky chrome wheel.
I'll let you know what I think but I am no expert. If they go round and round and stay completelyround, I'm generally happy.
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Old Jun 27, 2016, 08:19 AM   #39
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Bob, please let us know what you think of them. It will help or discount my opinion for future purchases. I was originally wanting the RS3S's, but my tire guy talked me out of them for the RS3A's. By the way, I had a slow bead leak on one of them and took it back to get fixed. He immediately knew what the cause was and showed me the tiny bar code sticker that Cooper puts right on the bead of the tire. They didn't get that one pulled off. They cleaned it up and no problems since. Thank God, I was suspicious of a leaky chrome wheel.
I got the new RS3As installed and they seem great! At least around town while running a few errands. Next I need to deal with, or not, the spare!
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Here's a link to the Coopers in the original 235/50-17 size. Also available in 235/55-17 for the same price. Many feel that the larger size fills the wheel well opening to better effect.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...=007901&cs=235
Watch this video. It explains why a taller tire may have a better ride.
The video explains why taller tires may be easier to balance with good results.
http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...orce_balancing

So, I am thinking of going with the 235/55/17 tires. I have had some bad experiences with Michelin Pilots one my 2009 Jetta, 2015 Escape Titanium. It seems that tire weight loading makes a difference in balance.

Installers do not vary the 1200 pound loading of the balance machine.
After having my 2015 Escape tires rotated, I noticed bad warbling sounds on quiet asphalt. These are sounds that eventually result in tire scalloping and excessive wear on ball joints etc.

I put the tires back to the original positions and the out of balance tire sound has now almost vanished.

If the installer would have used a lower load balance load setting (1000lb) for the rear tires, that would be the better way to do this.

There is also the fact that OEM manufacturers get the best tires. Tires you may never find at Sams Club etc.
http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/...160928161753:s

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Here's a link to the Coopers in the original 235/50-17 size. Also available in 235/55-17 for the same price. Many feel that the larger size fills the wheel well opening to better effect.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...=007901&cs=235
OK,

I need to know if youall put 30 pounds of air in the 235/55 tires or more.
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I need to know if youall put 30 pounds of air in the 235/55 tires or more.
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I don't use them, but I'm sure others will chime in.
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Old Nov 12, 2016, 04:55 PM   #43
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I as well are in the market for a set of tires - nothing wrong with the originals on my DSB but age. No signs of dry rot, zero cracking. Always inflated them to 45lbs and put a slab of 2x12 under each tire for the winter. It's just that what will be 14 year old+ tires in April. I'm really torn between the 55s and the 50s. I need to get my arm between the tire and the fender to clean the wheel well liners and have heard with the 55s it's going to be a tight fit.
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OK,
I need to know if youall put 30 pounds of air in the 235/55 tires or more.
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I run Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max 55's @ 34psi.

Seems to work good for year around.
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Bridgestone currently has a $70 rebate if you buy four.
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Bridgestone currently has a $70 rebate if you buy four.
Thinking of getting directional tires.
Tire Rotation would be front to back, no LF to RR or RF to LR.

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Like Gary, I also have the Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max 55's, but I normally keep them @ 33 psi.
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Like Gary, I also have the Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max 55's, but I normally keep them @ 33 psi.
Paul, Gary,

The tire pressure (33-34) you chose for the 55s, makes sense to me. A taller tire sidewall equals a softer ride, therefor a little more air makes sense.
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Old Nov 26, 2016, 06:35 PM   #49
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Below is a column from today's San Jose Mercury-News. Should be noted by all who have purchased low mileage 'Birds. Tires should be gauged both by mileage and time. Dot Lang's Porthole Authority has the details on ordering the Maxxis spare.

Steering You Right
A reader writes:
“How about reminding your readers that they might need to replace their spare tire in their old cars? I had a spare in my 12-year-old Jeep, put it on when I had a flat and a few weeks later had a blowout on that tire. It was pretty hairy, and after talking to some tire guys I now know, the spare should have been replaced.”
Great reminder. Thank you.
Most tire manufacturers say you should replace any tire that’s six to 10 years old, even if it hasn’t ever been used on the road. The materials in tires degrade over time, putting them at pretty high risk of failure as the years go on.
To find out how old your spare is, look on the sidewall. The last four digits of the Tire Identification Number (TIN) indicate the week and the year the tire was made. (So 0406 would be the fourth week of 2006.) And remember, the model year of your car is not always identical to the year the tire was manufactured, so don’t assume. Especially if you bought the car used, there’s a decent chance they didn’t put the newest possible tire in the spare compartment.
What’s your question? Sharon Peters would like to hear about what’s on your mind when it comes to caring for, driving and repairing your vehicle. Email Sharon@ctwfeatures.com.

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