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maryjanetbird · Feb 22, 2009, 07:22 PM

I have searched the forums and havent seen anyone experiencing my problem in my 02 bird. Horn is intermittent. Sometimes works ok, sometimes wont work until horn is depressed several times, sometimes wont work at all. Position of steering wheel doesnt seem to affect the problem. Changed the both relays listed in owners manual ( #4 and #8 ), still no change. Also, airbag lite is on. Could this be a related problem? Anyone out there with my answer?

JAB02LHS · Feb 22, 2009, 07:36 PM

Sounds like a bad clock spring!

CLOCK SPRING REPLACEMENT

Kokomo · Feb 22, 2009, 08:07 PM

Yes, those are the same symptoms I had with a bad clockspring. All the info needed to do your own repair is in the thread John linked to. I think some folks have reported dealership charges as high as $400-500 to replace it. The part itself was about $110 at a Lincoln dealership last summer.

maryjanetbird · Feb 23, 2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kokomo

Yes, those are the same symptoms I had with a bad clockspring. All the info needed to do your own repair is in the thread John linked to. I think some folks have reported dealership charges as high as $400-500 to replace it. The part itself was about $110 at a Lincoln dealership last summer.

thanks very much, I will pursue that.

maryjanetbird · Feb 23, 2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JAB02LHS

Sounds like a bad clock spring!

CLOCK SPRING REPLACEMENT

Thanks very much. I will pursue that.

Ray · Feb 23, 2009, 12:34 PM

I'm probably suggesting the obvious, but maybe hanging some ganja air freshener in the cabin or putting some Pink Floyd in the cd player would mellow her out........

maryjanetbird · Mar 20, 2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by maryjanetbird

I have searched the forums and havent seen anyone experiencing my problem in my 02 bird. Horn is intermittent. Sometimes works ok, sometimes wont work until horn is depressed several times, sometimes wont work at all. Position of steering wheel doesnt seem to affect the problem. Changed the both relays listed in owners manual ( #4 and #8 ), still no change. Also, airbag lite is on. Could this be a related problem? Anyone out there with my answer?

maryjanetbird · Mar 20, 2009, 05:02 PM

Just a follow up on the intermittent horn problem. The clockspring was, indeed, the problem. It also was causing the airbag lite to remain on and the steering wheel radio control to act up. Everything is now back to normal. Detailed instructions on this website are helpful for clockspring replacement.

justjon · Mar 20, 2009, 10:34 PM

Do any other cars need new clocksprings in their lifetimes? I never heard of this repair except on this forum.. Yes, I have replaced my clockspring. 2002 at 43,000 miles.

The Pen Maker · Mar 22, 2009, 07:59 PM

I had to have the clockspring repalced on one of my cars that I owned. Don't remember which Ford it was.

lasuvidaboy · Feb 5, 2010, 07:19 PM

I had to replace the clockspring in early January, 2010. Apparently this is a common problem on 2002-2005 TBirds according to my Ford dealer. The 'Bird was back at the dealer the next month for a $900.00 coil repair. Again according to the Ford dealer, the Lincoln LS and TBird have poorly designed coils and the parts are $92.00 each! The new parts are suppose to fix the problem from the original defective parts. That visit cost $900.00 at 65,000 miles. I still LOVE the car but it's been pricey to maintain over the last month and 1/2. Up until now, my TBird has been perfect.

5bird7 · Feb 5, 2010, 09:10 PM

Bruce, I think you're referring to the coil on plugs (or cops as we refer to them here) problems these 'birds experience. dealership mark-up on the price you paid for the coils. Valves shouldn't have been involved unless they had to replace the gaskets, too, because of oil leakage inside the spark plug holes.

lasuvidaboy · Feb 9, 2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 5bird7

Bruce, I think you're referring to the coil on plugs (or cops as we refer to them here) problems these 'birds experience. dealership mark-up on the price you paid for the coils. Valves shouldn't have been involved unless they had to replace the gaskets, too, because of oil leakage inside the spark plug holes.

lasuvidaboy · Feb 9, 2010, 09:04 PM

Dot, It was the coils that needed replacing. Lately the A/C has been blowing hot air out of one side and I see that that may be an inexpensive fix or a $600.00 one:)

5bird7 · Feb 10, 2010, 10:32 AM

Not sure on the costs for that AC fix as ours was done under warranty several years ago.

Feb 22, 2009, 07:22 PM	#1
maryjanetbird Member craig Location: rancho mirage, CA Joined TBN: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 craig's T-Bird 2002 black with black hardtop	horn intermittent I have searched the forums and havent seen anyone experiencing my problem in my 02 bird. Horn is intermittent. Sometimes works ok, sometimes wont work until horn is depressed several times, sometimes wont work at all. Position of steering wheel doesnt seem to affect the problem. Changed the both relays listed in owners manual ( #4 and #8 ), still no change. Also, airbag lite is on. Could this be a related problem? Anyone out there with my answer?

Feb 22, 2009, 07:36 PM	#2
JAB02LHS "HAILBIRD" JOHN A. BAKOS Location: CLEVELAND, OH Joined TBN: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,956 JOHN A. BAKOS's T-Bird 2004 MONTEREY MIST GREEN with ASH METALLIC hardtop Accent: LIGHT/DARK ASH TWO TONE INTERIOR	Re: horn intermittent Sounds like a bad clock spring! CLOCK SPRING REPLACEMENT Last edited by JAB02LHS; Feb 22, 2009 at 07:40 PM.

Feb 22, 2009, 08:07 PM	#3
Kokomo Mood: Egg Crate Grinning Jimmy Fitzpatrick Location: Austin, TX Joined TBN: Jul 2002 Posts: 652 Jimmy's T-Bird 2005 Torch Red with both Cashmere and Torch Red hardtop Accent: Full Texas Accent Y'all TOTM Win: March '08, Jan '04	Re: horn intermittent Yes, those are the same symptoms I had with a bad clockspring. All the info needed to do your own repair is in the thread John linked to. I think some folks have reported dealership charges as high as $400-500 to replace it. The part itself was about $110 at a Lincoln dealership last summer. __________________ ~Jimmy

Feb 23, 2009, 12:34 PM	#6
Ray Member Ray Location: Heartland of USSA, IL Joined TBN: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,678 Ray's T-Bird 2003 WW Pearl with WW Pearl hardtop Accent: Partial TOTM Win: Apr 2004, Apr 2007	Re: horn intermittent I'm probably suggesting the obvious, but maybe hanging some ganja air freshener in the cabin or putting some Pink Floyd in the cd player would mellow her out........

Mar 20, 2009, 10:34 PM	#9
justjon Member Jon Wallenius Location: San Pedro, CA Joined TBN: Oct 2008 Posts: 297 Jon's T-Bird 2002 Black with Black hardtop Accent: Full	Re: horn intermittent Do any other cars need new clocksprings in their lifetimes? I never heard of this repair except on this forum.. Yes, I have replaced my clockspring. 2002 at 43,000 miles.

Mar 20, 2009, 05:02 PM	#8
maryjanetbird Member craig Location: rancho mirage, CA Joined TBN: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 craig's T-Bird 2002 black with black hardtop	Re: horn intermittent Just a follow up on the intermittent horn problem. The clockspring was, indeed, the problem. It also was causing the airbag lite to remain on and the steering wheel radio control to act up. Everything is now back to normal. Detailed instructions on this website are helpful for clockspring replacement.

Mar 22, 2009, 07:59 PM	#10
The Pen Maker Member Roy Snider Location: Midwest City, OK Joined TBN: Jun 2003 Posts: 143 Roy's T-Bird 2003 Black with white hardtop Accent: Standard	Re: horn intermittent I had to have the clockspring repalced on one of my cars that I owned. Don't remember which Ford it was. __________________ The Pen Maker 2003 Evening Black Premium Thunderbird with Performance White hard top with standard interior- 1 of 13 built

Feb 5, 2010, 07:19 PM	#11
lasuvidaboy Member bruce mcpherson Location: los angeles, CA Joined TBN: Feb 2010 Posts: 11 bruce's T-Bird 2002 whisper white with whisper white hardtop Accent: black accent	Re: horn intermittent I had to replace the clockspring in early January, 2010. Apparently this is a common problem on 2002-2005 TBirds according to my Ford dealer. The 'Bird was back at the dealer the next month for a $900.00 coil repair. Again according to the Ford dealer, the Lincoln LS and TBird have poorly designed coils and the parts are $92.00 each! The new parts are suppose to fix the problem from the original defective parts. That visit cost $900.00 at 65,000 miles. I still LOVE the car but it's been pricey to maintain over the last month and 1/2. Up until now, my TBird has been perfect. Last edited by lasuvidaboy; Feb 9, 2010 at 09:02 PM. Reason: wrong term used for 'coils'

Feb 5, 2010, 09:10 PM	#12
5bird7 Still Cruisin' :), Donating Member Dot , Location: Rhome, TX Joined TBN: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,613 Dot's T-Bird 57 Willow Grn; 02 blue; 05 Inca; with Performance White hardtop Accent: all white; full accent blue; partial white TOTM Win: Dec 02, Dec 06, Feb 09	Re: horn intermittent Bruce, I think you're referring to the coil on plugs (or cops as we refer to them here) problems these 'birds experience. dealership mark-up on the price you paid for the coils. Valves shouldn't have been involved unless they had to replace the gaskets, too, because of oil leakage inside the spark plug holes. __________________ www.PortholeAuthority.com Texas Thunder May11-15, 2011

Feb 9, 2010, 09:04 PM	#14
lasuvidaboy Member bruce mcpherson Location: los angeles, CA Joined TBN: Feb 2010 Posts: 11 bruce's T-Bird 2002 whisper white with whisper white hardtop Accent: black accent	Re: horn intermittent Dot, It was the coils that needed replacing. Lately the A/C has been blowing hot air out of one side and I see that that may be an inexpensive fix or a $600.00 one:)

Feb 10, 2010, 10:32 AM	#15
5bird7 Still Cruisin' :), Donating Member Dot , Location: Rhome, TX Joined TBN: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,613 Dot's T-Bird 57 Willow Grn; 02 blue; 05 Inca; with Performance White hardtop Accent: all white; full accent blue; partial white TOTM Win: Dec 02, Dec 06, Feb 09	Re: horn intermittent Not sure on the costs for that AC fix as ours was done under warranty several years ago. __________________ www.PortholeAuthority.com Texas Thunder May11-15, 2011