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  • #91
    Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

    Originally posted by BLACK BEAUTY View Post
    A car is not a money investment for mods. As a rule of thumb, 10% of the value of the car is the max to install mods and no more.
    Alain at 10% I've reached my max! But what fun it has been! Since I have no plans to sell Black Beauty and loose all my new friends here I couldn't care what the value will be, it will have been worth it!
    As I already mentionned, it depends of your personnality. If you want to invest more, go for it.

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    • #92
      Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

      Ray: I hate to say this, but I think 2bad4u's formula makes more sense. Sorry, I know you worked hard on that one, but I have to be honest.

      Leroy: I would be glad to work with you on my dash kit. I spent a lot of time and money on it making sure it is totally reversible and does no damage. It leaves no residue either which is a real bonus.
      Unbelivable TBN trips including ALL of the lower 48 States plus 9 Canadian Provinces, 8 European Countries, 3 Caribbean Countries, Countless National Parks and have attended well over 100 TBN Events since 2001 and counting. Best of all ... fabulous friends.

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      • #93
        Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

        Thanks David, I knew you would come through to help a fellow TBN member. I certainly don't consider your dash kit as JUNK!!!!
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        • #94
          Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

          Originally posted by 94mcd View Post
          Thanks David, I knew you would come through to help a fellow TBN member. I certainly don't consider your dash kit as JUNK!!!!
          Pat: if I didn't know better, I would be offended by your comment. You of all people know how much r&d went into my dash kit design.
          It most certainly is not junk!
          Unbelivable TBN trips including ALL of the lower 48 States plus 9 Canadian Provinces, 8 European Countries, 3 Caribbean Countries, Countless National Parks and have attended well over 100 TBN Events since 2001 and counting. Best of all ... fabulous friends.

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          • #95
            Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

            David, I said I DON'T consider you dash kit junk !!! Anyone who knows you would understand how much work went into the design and manufacture of this exclusive modification. Only Jeannie can testify to the sleepless nights that went into this project not to mention the numerous trips to the Patent Office for final approval. I can hardly wait for your next project. Should we look for it under the name YOREL ?
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            • #96
              Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

              Originally posted by 94mcd View Post
              David, I said I DON'T consider you dash kit junk !!! Anyone who knows you would understand how much work went into the design and manufacture of this exclusive modification. Only Jeannie can testify to the sleepless nights that went into this project not to mention the numerous trips to the Patent Office for final approval. I can hardly wait for your next project. Should we look for it under the name YOREL ?
              David has also upgraded his manufacturing process with help from QVC for sharp and winkle free appearance.
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              Be good and if you can't be good be careful.

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              • #97
                Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                Originally posted by DavidA View Post
                You of all people know how much r&d went into my dash kit design.
                Rum & Drambuie?
                Bird is the word.....
                Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

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                • #98
                  Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                  Originally posted by RustyFrye View Post
                  Rum & Drambuie?
                  Close
                  Unbelivable TBN trips including ALL of the lower 48 States plus 9 Canadian Provinces, 8 European Countries, 3 Caribbean Countries, Countless National Parks and have attended well over 100 TBN Events since 2001 and counting. Best of all ... fabulous friends.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                    94mcd, I don't get it, what point does spelling my name backwards make? Do you have a DavidA dash kit on your car?

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                    • #100
                      Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                      Yes, I actually have the first prototype and I do not consider it JUNK as you continue to refer to our mods. It is priceless !!!!
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                      • #101
                        Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                        Yes Pat we all know that David's handy work is not junk. We all know that he put at least 15-20 seconds worth of effort into it.



                        Interesting to note that 57.5% of us answering the poll think that our babies will not be worth more in the future than they are today.

                        So Phil and I are not any where near agreement on this point. I just hope I'm wrong and he's right and we both get to live long enough to see the results. Would love to stay and continue this discussion but happy hour starts in 45 minutes. Maybe I'll poll the attendees!
                        Bill Coates-Canfield, Ohio
                        2003 -THE GREY GHOST- MSG, Saddle with Saddle dash kit, door panels, boot and visors

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                        • #102
                          Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                          What's even more evident is the prediction by TBN owners (who likely have a much more positive opinion of the car than the general public) of whether the T-Bird is a good investment. Compared with a typical 7% average gain for diversified stock market investments, only two people (out of 73 in the poll) think the Bird will be a better investment in the next 10 years. (The stock investment over 10 years would be 97% higher future value)

                          Now there are two things absent in the above equation:
                          a) I didn't include expenses like maintenance, taxes, insurance, storage. If these were included the poll might not have anyone believing the car would possibly be a better investment.
                          b) I didn't include the value of the "fun" factor. If this was included? Well, that's really why we're all owning the car.

                          My conclusion ... the car is not an investment and shouldn't be considered as one.
                          Last edited by jayred1; Feb 12, 2015, 01:52 PM.

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                          • #103
                            Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                            Originally posted by jayred1 View Post
                            What's even more evident is the prediction by TBN owners (who likely have a much more positive opinion of the car than the general public) of whether the T-Bird is a good investment. Compared with a typical 7% average gain for diversified stock market investments, only two people (out of 73 in the poll) think the Bird will be a better investment in the next 10 years. (The stock investment over 10 years would be 97% higher future value)

                            Now there are two things absent in the above equation:
                            a) I didn't include expenses like maintenance, taxes, insurance, storage. If these were included the poll might not have anyone believing the car would possibly be a better investment.
                            b) I didn't include the value of the "fun" factor. If this was included? Well, that's really why we're all owning the car.

                            My conclusion ... the car is not an investment and shouldn't be considered as one.
                            Amen and isn't it so.
                            02 Nieman Marcus-SS htp-f/sil. #165 - 21 states-DC
                            02 TB-TB htp-p/blue acc.-Nancy Gioia-28 states-DC
                            03 007-Coral htp-f/white acc. #468 7 states
                            03 WW-WW htp-p/red 8 states
                            04 VMG-VMG htp-p/white - 20 states-DC
                            04 Merlot- Merlot htp-sand- B. Grassnig-48 states-DC
                            04 TR-TR htp-blk 20 states-DC
                            04 LIB-LIB htp-p/white 16 states-DC
                            05 Cashmere htp-stone #408 21 states-DC
                            05 Dusk Rose-DR htp-cashmere seats - 48&DC
                            05 IG-IG htp-p/white #82                             - 48&DC

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                            • #104
                              Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                              Originally posted by SixPac View Post
                              I won't be here 10 years from now, so I don't really care. Will pass on voting.

                              Where are you going Charlie? Who am I going to have a beer with at the TBN events in 2025?

                              I said 20% higher because I think they have pretty much bottomed out and when they're 20 to 23 years old and new cars are going to be around $75,000. for a mid-priced car. They will have so many electronic gadgets on them you won't even have to steer them, let alone apply the brakes. They may even be talking to each other while the driver is on his/her smart-aleck phone.
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                              • #105
                                Re: Future Value of Retrobirds

                                Recently, there was a thread regarding TBirds and the celebrities that owned, or once owned, TBirds.

                                Look at the list of celebrities that owned 55/56/57 TBirds and compare that list to the 2002/03/04/05 retro celebrity list (I believe there were two).

                                While I admit that the car does get looks and compliments, that would be like me looking at a Javelin or an Edsel. I might look at the car and compliment the owner, but I would never buy one.

                                So, I do not foresee a big increase in retro value except to keep abreast with inflation....maybe.

                                But, it will do better than an Avalon from the same time period.
                                2010 Explorer Limited Edition, tri color white, camel interior
                                2003 TBird black/saddle
                                1964 Ford Galaxie 500XL conv't turq/black
                                2004 Lincoln LS 8 Sport light tundra metallic/medium stone

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