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    Should car companies bring back the old day?
    That New Cars Should Have
    Wouldn't it be great if some of the features that made old cars neat could be fitted to today's cars and trucks? Personality--and reliability--all in the same package? A car that starts up every time, never stalls, and doesn't leak or sprout rust before the note's paid off--but which isn't just another magnificently well-engineered--and completely boring--appliance?

    Granted, it's pretty much impossible to graft Harley Earl-style '59-Caddy fins onto an '05 Malibu--for taste's sake, not to mention the problem of making it past government bumper-impact/impalement standards. But there's no reason why some of the best features of the past couldn't be retrofitted to the cars of today.

    For example:

    Wing-vent windows: Before air conditioning became common, cars had vent windows that canted outward to provide a cooling (and deflected) breeze as you drove. Without vent windows, your only choice is to roll down the windows and get a hair-mussing windstorm--or crank up the air conditioner. Bringing back wing-vent windows would add a retro touch--and functionality--to modern cars.

    High-beam button on the floorboard. A great idea that's gone away and ought to be brought back. It's much more convenient, when you want high beam, to just tap your left foot instead of having to fidget with a multifunction stalk that turns on the windshield wipers every other time instead of the brights--or engages some other function you weren't looking for and didn't want. In the hands (or feet, as the case might be) of any competent driver, a floorboard button switch is faster--and thus safer--to hit than the stalk-type. People who have a problem "accidentally" turning on their brights with a floor-mounted button are the type who also "accidentally" hit the gas when they want the brake--and drive through the local donut shop's plate-glass window. Instead of idiot- (and lawyer-) proofing new cars, automakers should stick with solutions that are simple--and work.

    Rotary knobs and levers for the air conditioner. Certain functions are not improved by making their operation more complex than it needs to be. Turning a dial or knob from "cold" to "hot" is a lot less hassle than punching in a number and fiddling with a digital display, "touch screen," or "mouse input" to get the fan to work. You can walk around the block to cross the street, too, if you like--it just doesn't get the job done any faster. And down the road--when stuff begins to not work--it's a sure bet you'll spend less in time, hassle, and money to replace a broken knob or cable than you will for a new ECU, flat-screen display, or "mouse input."

    Cool-design steering wheels. Air bags have all but ruined what used to be one of the most expressive features of a new car. The highly individualized spokes and horn buttons of the past have been replaced by a generic, bulging plastic housing for the air bag--the only "safety" device, incidentally, that is known to have killed several hundred people and injured thousands more. On aesthetic grounds alone, air bags should be made optional equipment for those who don't mind risking torn retinas and snapped vertebrae--not to mention the sure bet of an eyesore steering wheel.





    That New Cars Should Have
    Bench seats/low-back buckets.
    It's easy to sit three across--or "two cozy"--when you've got a bench seat instead of the rump-cradling "sport buckets" used in everything from Ferraris to minivans. There's a lot to be said for being able to slide across a seat without having to climb over a center console. It's easier to get in and out, too. Low-back seats may be a whiplash risk--and far from ideal for an autocross or any sort of high-g cornering--but there's nothing like being able to spread out like in the good old days--one hand on the wheel, the other draped casually over the top of the seat back. Like a double bacon cheeseburger, sometimes things that may not be totally safe are a heckuva lot more enjoyable--and thus worth the risk. In any case, it ought to be up to car buyers--not professional busybodies who nag the government to peck at the automakers on behalf of "consumers."

    Brand-correct engines. There was a time when you bought a Buick--and got a Buick-built engine, not a generic "GM" power plant identical to the ones powering Chevys and Pontiacs (brands which also once had their own unique engines, too). Sure, it's more cost-effective to use the same engine in multiple vehicles--but you do so at the cost of soul. The best example of this is the new GTO, a fierce performer that's quicker and faster than any classic-era GTO of the 1960s. But its Chevy-sourced engine and bland styling make it sound, feel, and drive just like a Corvette or Camaro--nothing like the 389 Tri-Power "Goats" of the good old days. A Pontiac should have a Pontiac engine--otherwise it's just a Chevy in drag.

    Chrome bumpers. We haven't seen them on passenger cars in decades. Instead, new cars uniformly get body color "fascias" made of urethane or some other plastic composite material instead of the impact- and dent-resistant chrome and steel that used to be industry norm. The "bumperless" design may look good in the showroom--but it's as vulnerable as Michael Jackson in prison out in the real world. Even minor fender-benders can result in hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars in accident damage. And painted bumpers invariably chip and scuff within just a few years--uglifying the car and hurting its resale value. Old-style chrome bumpers not only offered much better protection, they looked great, too--setting off the cars lines, demarcating the front and rear ends from the rest of the vehicle, adding flash. They still look great on trucks--and would look great on cars, too
    38
    Yes, without a doubt
    39.47%
    15
    No, modern is way better
    34.21%
    13
    Duh, maybe certain features (explain in a post below)
    26.32%
    10

    The poll is expired.

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  • #2
    Re: Ah, The Old Days

    I liked the high beam switch, and the air vents the most .. I remember when outside mirrors were an optional item that you bought as aftermarket to keep the cost down..
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    • #3
      Re: Ah, The Old Days

      I miss the air vents the most personally. Smoking in the car is much more difficult........
      Johnny Gumballs
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      • #4
        Re: Ah, The Old Days

        Let's not go (think) too far back. In 1948 Radios and heaters were optional. I don't think anyone would want that.

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        • #5
          Re: Ah, The Old Days

          Back to the days of feeling the openess of the road...
          Bird is the word.....
          Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

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          • #6
            Re: Ah, The Old Days

            I would have to agree with Bruce on the brand-correct engines! Plus lets be honest a lot of cars back then were cool! Now we have mini vans!!!! What a curse on society!

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            • #7
              Re: Ah, The Old Days

              HEY COUSIN BRUCIE, COMPLIMENTS ON A GREAT THREAD. IT WAS GOOD, CONSIDERING YOUR FROM RHODE ISLAND!!!!

              ITS AMAZING HOW MANY GUYS HAVE RESTORED OLD CARS FROM THE '40'S, 50'S, 60'S AND KEEP THEM, WILL NOT SELL THEM FOR ANY $.

              OF COURSE THERE IS A COMBINATION OF REASONS WHY THEY DO THIS BUT I THINK ITS A COMBINATION OF STILL HAVING A "PIECE OF THE OLD DAYS" AND APPRECIATION FOR THE DAY WHEN CARS WERE CARS (TANKS)!

              AND YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE BUCKET SEATS. NOTHING LIKE THE BENCH SEAT AND HAVING YOUR WOMAN SIT NEXT TO YOU WHILE YOUR FAVOITE SONG IS PLAYING! SOMETHING LIKE "THIS I SWEAR IS TRUE" BY THE SKYLINERS OR "I ONLY HAVE EYES FOR YOU" BY THE FLAMINGOES. BACK TO THE DAYZ!!!

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              • #8
                Re: Ah, The Old Days

                Bruce, I like your ideas. I did enjoy the ability of dimming lights with touch of foot and I also liked the small vent windows. I think my dad had them on his 52 Chevy coupe. Good post as always.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ah, The Old Days

                  .....speaking of old.....got a call this morning about a early '55 that I've admired for some time, is for sale.......These things never happen at a convenient time......old is expensive!....more expensive than collecting another NewBird......I know my wife has always liked Thunderbird Blue.........the two car garage is full......Decisions....Decisions!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ah, The Old Days

                    I'm back. And the perfect thread for me to get back in the game with. You see, in order for me to get my new Mustang, I have to give up my classic. I have had offers, have a collector who wants it, and a wife who would love to see it gone. BUT, Alas, I still live in those good old days. And when I take her out for a spin, I just slide back in time, I love the Chrome, side vent windows, low back seats, and definately the button on the floor (oh, how I hate that damn multi-funtion lever, that does everything except what you want it to do). Soo, I am so reluctant to give her up, for fear that I may never have that opportunity again, to actually Live the good ol' days. I hate plastic.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ah, The Old Days

                      Yea, I would like to bring back some of those. When I ordered my 1984 T-Bird Turbo Coupe they ask me if I wanted the window wings/vents and I said yes. It was an option back in 84. I also hate these stalk mounted dimmers. I would much rather have it back on the floor. I think they did this at the time to imitate the cars coming from Europe back then.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Ah, The Old Days

                        Unfortunately, retro may have run its course. The sales of the SSR, Tbird, and PT Cruiser have dropped off. Chevy is late to the party with their '49 Suburban clone called the HHR. Caddy had a golden opportunity to bring back tail fins on one of their models (XLR roadster perhaps?), but every one of their cars looks the same.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Ah, The Old Days

                          .....maybe not quite yet....Toyota is rolling out their retro Land Cruiser........

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                          • #14
                            Re: Ah, The Old Days

                            The TBird, PT Cruiser and SSR at least represent specific cars of the past, but whats with the GTO and Charger. The only thing retro with those cars is the name!! I do like the old air vents.

                            Red Bird Dave

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                            • #15
                              Re: Ah, The Old Days

                              I was coming out of WalMart today, walking to the back part of the prking lot towards my Bird when I noticed a lady driving around my car. When I got to the car, she pulled up and asked, "Is that beautiful car an antique? It's been years since I've seen such a gorgeous car."

                              She was obviously not a car buff, but I considered that one of the best compliments I've ever had on my Modded Tbird!

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