speakers

[tomgaz]

Has anyone put 6x9 speakers in the doors? I had a entire sound system put in my bird and I still don't the sound that I am after I went with a 2 din head unit 6x8 kickers in the doors 6x8 boston acoustics in the back a 1500 watt amp and a 8 inch sub woofed in the trunk. But you cannot hear the sub woofed. $2000 later and I still don't have the sound I am after.

[E'sBird]

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Has anyone put 6x9 speakers in the doors? I had a entire sound system put in my bird and I still don't the sound that I am after I went with a 2 din head unit 6x8 kickers in the doors 6x8 boston acoustics in the back a 1500 watt amp and a 8 inch sub woofed in the trunk. But you cannot hear the sub woofed. $2000 later and I still don't have the sound I am after.

What are you seeking? BA's are good speakers. Do you use the head unit's power for all except the sub and your 1500 watt amp is for Sub? Or do you use the 1500 for all speakers and run line level from the head unit? First question first:
1. What kind of music do you play and what kind of sound are you wanting?

2. What is your speaker configuration, how is your sub connected?

3. Kickers are noted for their bass response and would not be so good for traditional jazz, classical or some pop. BA on the other hand would be great for those, but not so great for some country, heavy metal. Here's an idea, put on your music and take your fader on the head unit and turn it to full front. What does it sound like? Now turn it to full rear. What does it sound like. You may have mismatched speakers.
Good luck

[pinkilee]

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All my speakers are Boston Acoustics... I have a 10" sub between the seats with two amps in trunk on the little shelf (one for the sub, one for speakers). Behind each seat, built into the sub box there is a 6x9 speaker. Then I have tweeters by the tri-angle vent holes in the dash. And last but not least...I have 4x6 speakers in the door. Blown all of them twice.

Shown is my first set of speakers...db drive.

[Jimz56]

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I am going to use some of this stuff to cut down on heat and road noise. Not much I can do with my "sound system" (The one speaker in the center of the dash).

This is an interesting little video about sound deadening in doors. There are several products that work similar to this. After looking at several of them, I am going to use this one for heat and noise reduction from the floor.

http://www.secondskinaudio.com/noise...r/overkill.php

HTH

Jim

[Rondor]

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The best thing for you would be to trade cars, as a 2 seated open roadster will never aconplish what you want. An old hearse would probably work very well.

[pinkilee]

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The sound I get from my lil red rocket is just what I was trying to achieve... loud with much bass. (yea, my son and I was having our own private competition. )
If I chose to change from Toby Keith to Black Eyed Peas I can either change to a pre-set setting or tweak my own. Stereos come with different built-in setting for jazz, club, country, etc. easy peasy.

The only time any of us will need a hearse is when all we'll hear is the sound of harps.

[E'sBird]

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All my speakers are Boston Acoustics... I have a 10" sub between the seats with two amps in trunk on the little shelf (one for the sub, one for speakers). Behind each seat, built into the sub box there is a 6x9 speaker. Then I have tweeters by the tri-angle vent holes in the dash. And last but not least...I have 4x6 speakers in the door. Blown all of them twice.

Shown is my first set of speakers...db drive.

Contrary to what most people think, it is the lack of adequate power that blows speakers, not too much power. Are you running all that off your head unit or do you have amps? That could be the reason you are blowing speakers.

[pinkilee]

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Contrary to what most people think, it is the lack of adequate power that blows speakers, not too much power. Are you running all that off your head unit or do you have amps? That could be the reason you are blowing speakers.

I have two amps in the trunk...one for the sub, one for the speakers.
The sub is being ruined by always being in the sun...

[E'sBird]

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Are you running line level or speaker level through your amps? Line level is a lower wattage and works better with additional amps. If not, are you using crossovers to limit low bass to subs? If you are running low bass, below 60 hrz, a person can literally extend the piston throw of the speaker magnet beyond limits and CRASH!

[pinkilee]

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Are you running line level or speaker level through your amps?

ummmm....errrrrr......huh?!

Tell me how to find out and I will do it. I'd ask the ex, but he'd probably tell me it was bitch-level.

[E'sBird]

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Good point:
Line level is usually run through RCA plugs, that is a plug on both ends of the wire with a point in the middle and a small barrel around the outside of the point. There are usually two such lines, running from the back of the head unit to the amp. These type of wires (RCA) a person can plug in and unplug easily. Speaker level is usually run through straight wires coming from the back of the head unit attached to the amp with small screws holding the wire down. Since you have two amps. One could be line level with RCAs and another with speaker level with wire attached. If I did not communicate well, please ask again.

[E'sBird]

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I have two amps in the trunk...one for the sub, one for the speakers.
The sub is being ruined by always being in the sun...

Bass is omnidirectional and can usually be heard anywhere in the car. One can mount sub woofers anywhere. Please be careful.....a very low bass 32 hrz signal has a band width of 16 feet. That means the first time one hears it is 16 feet away. Understand the pressure inside the car is still there, even though it is not heard. Hearing Aide people are really getting excited about the generation of people hooked on bass. They are making themselves deaf without knowing it.

[tbird05cel]

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Has anyone put 6x9 speakers in the doors? I had a entire sound system put in my bird and I still don't the sound that I am after I went with a 2 din head unit 6x8 kickers in the doors 6x8 boston acoustics in the back a 1500 watt amp and a 8 inch sub woofed in the trunk. But you cannot hear the sub woofed. $2000 later and I still don't have the sound I am after.

Thomas, how old are your ears? That may be the weak link in the hole equation. Just Saying . . . . .

[jayred1]

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Earl - I believe you're mistaken with your terminology (and application) of sound engineering. You reference the bandwidth of a 32 Hz frequency; however bandwidth is the difference between the highest and lowest frequencies in a range of a sound/signal (measured in Hz not distance). I believe you meant to say the wavelength of the frequency.

In the case of a 32 Hz frequency, the full wavelength of the signal is 35 ft. You mentioned 16 ft which would about be the half wavelength of the sound. If you stand 16 ft away, you would be in a null spot and the sound would be very low and standing at a distance less/more will provide a louder sound. However since common sounds/music have multiple and varying frequencies (not a constant 32 Hz sound), you will hear those signals at every distance.

Your statement that you won't hear a sound until a certain distance is totally wrong ... try standing right next to an audio subwoofer and you will definitely hear low frequencies!

Now the discussion can return to Tomgaz's speaker question ...

[E'sBird]

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Earl - I believe you're mistaken with your terminology (and application) of sound engineering. You reference the bandwidth of a 32 Hz frequency; however bandwidth is the difference between the highest and lowest frequencies in a range of a sound/signal (measured in Hz not distance). I believe you meant to say the wavelength of the frequency.

In the case of a 32 Hz frequency, the full wavelength of the signal is 35 ft. You mentioned 16 ft which would about be the half wavelength of the sound. If you stand 16 ft away, you would be in a null spot and the sound would be very low and standing at a distance less/more will provide a louder sound. However since common sounds/music have multiple and varying frequencies (not a constant 32 Hz sound), you will hear those signals at every distance.

Your statement that you won't hear a sound until a certain distance is totally wrong ... try standing right next to an audio subwoofer and you will definitely hear low frequencies!

Now the discussion can return to Tomgaz's speaker question ...

I was trying to be illustrative not so much accurate. Correct I wrote in haste and did not use the correct terminology. At that point you will hear various frequencies some as high as 100 hz, but the longer wave units, I would stand by what I said. They will do damage to the ear. There is no way that a 32 hz can be heard within an auto even the speaker is quite capable of production. The sound pressure is still there. That was my point. Thanks for the correction though.