Non-functioning, remote keyless entry

[azrgbroker]

Help! My 2002 "money pit" appears to have a common malady. I think I've narrowed it down to the "rear electronic module". At a hefty price of $700+, not including installation, I'd rather purchase brand-new-second-hand. The trouble is, I have two different part numbers: 1V6T-13B524-AO is from Maughan Auto Salvage; and 1W6Z-13C788-AB is from "Just Answer Ford" http://www.justanswer.com/ford/2nm08...-not-work.html . Anybody know the correct part?

Also, does anyone know of anyway to access it, other than by removing part of the convertible top well?

[Lindy]

Re: Non-functioning, remote keyless entry

Please explain. Precisely what is not working? Is the battery in the hand-held keyless remote dead?

Lindy

[EpTxGuy]

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Lindy,
It sounds to me (by reading the questions to the mechanic in the link of the OP) that the keyfob is not unlocking one of the doors, and he has to manually open it with the door handle.

[steelblue5505]

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You need to know this as it is written in Big Bold print in my Ford shop manual.

"Caution! Prior to the removal of the REM it is necessary to upload module configuration information to the appropriate diagnostic equipment. This information needs to be downloaded into the new module once installed."

This means removal / replacement is NOT simply a in & out ready to go type repair.

There is also in my Ford shop manual under the diagnosis & testing section for handles, locks, latches & entry systems directs troubleshooting to installing the diagnostics tool to the vehicle and carry out the diagnostics for your problem. This procedure checks the Rear Electronic Module, the Front Electronics Module and the Remote Keyless Entry Module. All three of these modules are in the circuits to unlocking/locking the doors.

IMHO I think I'd get a Ford or Lincoln Service center do some diagnostics before spending the quoted prices you have received for a REM. The REM just might not be the problem.

One more point, the way to reach to remove the REM and the RKE is down through the soft top pocket by removing the 7 pop out pins and moving the cover aside, raise the top back up, push the water shield aside and remove the REM

Please keep us updated

[Peterfurlan]

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I think Mike (steelblue) has just about said it all. Funny that your expert never mentioned the remote keyless entry module. You might want to just check these
fuses central junction box #7 and #30 rear battery junction box #10,15,26,27,28
and 41. As Mike advised take the car to a dealer,your best bet and good luck.

[Rosebud]

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Strange he went to this Just Answer Ford
Submitted: 861 days and 7 hours ago.
Category: Ford
Value: $15
Status: CLOSED

[azrgbroker]

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Sorry for the confusion.

The remote does not work from the fob for either door, or trunk; I tried a new battery, and checked the fob transmitter - it's good. It's not the actuators because the the doors can be locked/unlocked from the armrest button; the trunk can be opened from the door panel. The fuses are all good. I did not solicit this "Ford expert"; this was an answer I found on the Internet. Thanks to SteelBlue5505 for the info - I won't screw with it.

Now my A/C doesn't work - in Phoenix! With all the electro-mechanical problems I've read about, who are these components made by - LUCAS?

I bought this car with 50K miles on it from an estate sale. In 18-mos. I've spent over $4500, including such things as a radiator cooling fan pump, hydraulic fan assembly, replaced leaking valve cover and oil pan gaskets, etc. I know, get ready to spend another $2K-$3K.

Gentlemen: I hope you can see why I don't share your enthusiasm for this car; they should have named the model, Fiasco.

Warranty is expired; I didn't know I would have to buy an extension for a 50K mile car, just to keep it running

[Lindy]

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Gentlemen: I hope you can see why I don't share your enthusiasm for this car; they should have named the model, Fiasco.

Claude, looks like you got a bad case of Murphy's Law.

Lindy

[Brad]

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I have a "known working" REM from a 2002. The Ford mechanic I got it from told me they will work in another car if it has the EXACT same options. Not sure on an 02 if there were various options that ran through the REM.
If you buy a new one or a different configured used one you will need to have a Ford dealer program it. If I recall dealerships generally charge about $100. to program them but this can vary by dealer

As Mike mentioned above it might not be the REM, I got my extra one when a Dealer installed one in a car that didn't need it (loose wire). My hope is to get a bad one and test it against my working one and repair it...it would also be nice to get one of those programmers from a closed dealership or on Ebay.

[qruml23]

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Sorry for the confusion.

The remote does not work from the fob for either door, or trunk; I tried a new battery, and checked the fob transmitter - it's good. It's not the actuators because the the doors can be locked/unlocked from the armrest button; the trunk can be opened from the door panel. The fuses are all good. I did not solicit this "Ford expert"; this was an answer I found on the Internet. Thanks to SteelBlue5505 for the info - I won't screw with it.

Now my A/C doesn't work - in Phoenix! With all the electro-mechanical problems I've read about, who are these components made by - LUCAS?

I bought this car with 50K miles on it from an estate sale. In 18-mos. I've spent over $4500, including such things as a radiator cooling fan pump, hydraulic fan assembly, replaced leaking valve cover and oil pan gaskets, etc. I know, get ready to spend another $2K-$3K.

Gentlemen: I hope you can see why I don't share your enthusiasm for this car; they should have named the model, Fiasco.

Warranty is expired; I didn't know I would have to buy an extension for a 50K mile car, just to keep it running

Gentlemen: I hope you can see why I don't share your enthusiasm for this car; they should have named the model, Fiasco.

Maybe, the previous owner was Fidel Castro not Fiasco.

[luvbirdz]

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You can program the remotes yourself, instructions are in the owners manual. I only got 1 remote when I bought the car, I bought a second one from EBay and did it.
You are actually programing the car to accept the remote's signal.
The only question I have is did the remote work when you got it and then quit, or just not work from the beginning?

[007Cruiser]

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Why was it necessary to design a system that requires two computers to unlock a door? Doors unlocked just fine for years with no computer. Oh, right, you need the dealer to fix it. Almost forgot.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

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[QUOTE=luvbirdz;467148]You are actually programing the car to accept the remote's signal.

I THOUGHT THE CAR WAS PROGRAMING THE REMOTES.

[jayred1]

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Unlikely - Fobs typically have transmitter only, not a receiver.

Here's a website that provides info about programming a key/car combination for most makes & models ... http://www.programyourremote.com/

If you've always wondered how the digital link between your key and car (or garage door & opener) works, this explains it ... http://auto.howstuffworks.com/remote-entry2.htm

Now hopefully the cruise crowd isn't sitting poolside, missing their Bird and pushing their fob 257 times!

[azrgbroker]

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Note to "luvbirdz": the remote worked for 17-months, then just stopped. I only received one remote (and key) with the car. I've tried several times to reprogram the fob; everything goes as per instructions telling me it took the program, but same results.

Kevin, the temporary overseer of Thunderbirdnest, suggested I sell it - hard to do when I have new problems cropping up all the time. How could I in good conscience unload this beast on some poor, unsuspecting Buyer? Oh, I forgot, it's the American way. BTW, no prospect will buy a car without a working remote entry.

The latest malady? The convertble top is all messed up by the last top bow, above the rear window. It seems the paper (?) that acts as a filler/gasket deteriorated, shifted, or something; it's a cheap fix - one day lost and $350 at the top shop.

I'm not looking for sympathy; I'm glad all your vehicles are doing well, and hope they will continue to do so.

I've found that there are no magic answers for this car.

Thank you. No further responses are necessary.