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  • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

    Originally posted by casinofig View Post
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    Replacing the plastic cooling parts is just good maintainance. At least I call it maintainance since they are guarenteed to fail. I didn't have my bird a month when I needed to replace the coolant reservoir, the themostat and housing and the by pass pipe as well. All plastic and I expect to do it again in a couple of years. Anothers words maintainance.
    I hope (believe) all the parts I replaced will last more than a couple of years. As far as I can tell the ones I replaced were the originals This means they were >9 years old. Surely I can expect the new parts I installed to last at least 5 years (although I plan to keep spares on hand).

    I believe the #1 way to prevent problems with the plastic parts is to make sure the cooling system is properly bleed, the radiator is flowing properly and the cooling fan is working as designed. An engine that runs hot will place additional stress on the plastic componets (higher temperature and higher pressures).

    I am keeping a watch on the Lincoln LS forum. A guy that posts to that forum was working on metal replacment parts for the plastic parts at the front of the 2003-2005 style engines (metal replacments for the thermostat housing and related components are availble from Jaguar for the 2002 style engines).

    Ed

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    • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

      Personally, I think the word 'mod' is a somewhat 'loaded' term.

      I think there's a distinction between a 'mod' and 'personalizing' a car. Adding a pocket square or a lapel pin to a suit isn't really a 'mod' to the suit itself. It changes the overall look a bit, but the suit is still essentially the same suit. Both the pocket square and lapel pin can be added or removed without any permanent change to the suit.

      Following that thinking, a set of custom floor mats or even a hard tonneau cover, are not really mods. They personalize the car, but there's no change to the car itself. Both the mats and the tonneau cover can be removed at any time, and the car has not changed.

      At what point 'personalizing' becomes a mod, is a gray area. Chrome trim looks more permanent, but it too can be removed. Same with custom wheels and tires. Some of the changes Ray has made to his car, like his hood scoop, seem to qualify as true 'mods.' They can't be installed or reversed without body work, but even then, Ray could put a stock hood on his car and then it would be 'original' in a sense.

      Adding 'personal' touches to a car is along the lines of choosing the car's color or option package. Not everyone wants the same color car, but no one would think the same car in a different color or option package is a 'modded' car.

      Even a performance upgrade like the SCT tuner is not really a 'mod.' That unit simply 're-flashes' the on-board computer and adds more power. The same unit can be used to return the engine to its original 'tune.' So is that a 'mod?' Not really.

      There's a difference between 'modding,' 'personalizing' and 'customizing' a car. George Barris 'customized' cars. Thunderbird owners (or owners of any other kind of car) that add 'personal' touches that are easily removable or reversible, haven't really 'modded' their cars in the strict sense. They've just added personal touches that distinguish their cars from others.

      So I guess you could say that ANYTHING added after the car comes off the assembly line is technically a 'mod.' But with such a wide range of aftermarket products, most of which are reversible, adding custom floor mats, a hard tonneau cover or different wheels doesn't really change the car itself. Just my opinion.

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      • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

        Couldn't disagree with you more Phil:

        World English Dictionary
        modification (ˌmɒdɪfɪˈkeɪʃən) — n 1. the act of modifying or the condition of being modified 2. something modified; the result of a modification 3. a small change or adjustment

        Anything that changes a car from the way it came down the assembly line is a "mod". If it isn't dead stock it has had a modification.
        Bill Coates-Canfield, Ohio
        2003 -THE GREY GHOST- MSG, Saddle with Saddle dash kit, door panels, boot and visors

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        • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

          Originally posted by wcoates View Post
          Couldn't disagree with you more Phil:

          World English Dictionary
          modification (ˌmɒdɪfɪˈkeɪʃən) — n 1. the act of modifying or the condition of being modified 2. something modified; the result of a modification 3. a small change or adjustment

          Anything that changes a car from the way it came down the assembly line is a "mod". If it isn't dead stock it has had a modification.
          Bill, I think that's what I said:

          "So I guess you could say that ANYTHING added after the car comes off the assembly line is technically a 'mod.' "

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          • Bill ,reading lesson is next Tuesday.LOL

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            • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

              For me mods just make my car more enjoyable. I won't even start listing all I've done (redundant maybe) to Black Beauty. My favorite mods story came in Garden of the Gods last summer in Colorado, when a couple stopped to admire Black Beauty and the man said 'I designed this car, but I don't remember all this chrome'. Every time I take my car out for a spin, I get positive comments. But like Jane says, 'the women are going to be looking, but not at you!' Well at least they are looking, and smiling too! That's worth a buff job for sure. My latest mod is making up Stainless steel side body molding. When Action Manufacturing sent a runner over to get my curled 1/2 inch strips to take to the 4000 ton press to flatten them out, the young female driver (her name was BLACK WIDOW) wanted to ride in Black Beauty. She said she would have to clock out first....how long a ride was she looking for??? gotta be careful..

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              • Re: Mod vs. No Mod poll

                Originally Posted by wcoates View Post
                Couldn't disagree with you more Phil:

                World English Dictionary
                modification (ˌmɒdɪfɪˈkeɪʃən) — n 1. the act of modifying or the condition of being modified 2. something modified; the result of a modification 3. a small change or adjustment

                Anything that changes a car from the way it came down the assembly line is a "mod". If it isn't dead stock it has had a modification.

                Originally Posted by LA Phil, I think that's what I said:

                Originally Posted by Cashr22 ,Bill, reading lesson is next Tuesday.LOL

                Funniest thread I have read since joining two months ago !!
                Last edited by 11TH GEN; Dec 29, 2014, 08:37 AM.

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