Retro Birds Future Values

[jerrym3]

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When I look at all these astronomical prices for Camaros, Yenkos, Shelbys, GTOs, etc, I can't help but think that there will be a time when all the folks who loved these cars (including me) will have passed on. Then, these cars will be worth next to nothing.

How many Model A's or Model T's do you see going for big bucks today? None. How about late 30's and 40's? A few are still popular, but not a lot.

Those folks that grew up with these cars, rest their souls, are no longer with us.

Same with all the cars that bring big bucks today. The gearheads of the 60's/70's will someday be gone.

Circle of life.

Enjoy your car now, not when it's too late.

[V8 Cat]

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.................... I can't help but think that there will be a time when all the folks who loved these cars (including me) will have passed on. Then, these cars will be worth next to nothing.
How many Model A's or Model T's do you see going for big bucks today? None. How about late 30's and 40's? A few are still popular, but not a lot.................
The gearheads of the 60's/70's will someday be gone.
Circle of life..................

Jerry,
I think you are right-on. I could care less about any cars earlier than the middle 50s, and in fact my sweet spot is between 1955 (to me that was where the designs leaped forward and over head valve V8s really became popular) to around 1972. After that the HP really went down, driveability because of pollution controls, etc. was poor, and the quality/fit and finish of the American cars I came in contact with from 1973 to about 1998 was just terrible - at least the ones I owned or drove as company cars. You see the auctions, and the bidders for cars of that era (muscle car) are primarily made up of old people (around my age).Just my opinion here, but in 20 years I think the value of a Yenko Camero will be less than half of what it is today.

[Rondor]

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Along those lines,,, the cars of 30's and 40's were a lot less complicated and cheaper to restore compaired to the later years. The new car guys will have to have a different reason for their interest besides memories. A plus for us is 90% or more of the cars in last 20 years are wind tunnel designs and all look alike.

[dearborntbird]

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Those dreaded black books that dealers use, list the actual selling prices at the dealer auctions across the country. The auction here in Detroit has 12 lanes of cars all selling at the same time. Usually around 1500 cars sold in a couple of hours. In the Dearborn area, many dealers do not even offer the black book price. The dealers would rather go to the auction and buy exactly the car and color they prefer. Plus, they get to get out of the office for a few hours. They have to sell their cars usually every 60 days. So they lose some on many cars. They buy the cars they think they can sell quickly.

[grampsfinaltoy]

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Squirrel! Haha dog humor. Anyway I think buying a car on its future value isca huge risk. Buying a rare ducatti and leaving it in the garage? Sure. But buying a 1985 cimarron hoping it will increase in value? Not. Anyway, to each his own . My car is part of my dad's legacy. Therefore it is part of my family's legacy looking at the value is fun, but frankly it doesn't matter: its not for sale.

[Leroy]

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Here's an 04 from a vintage car collection in San Diego on Ebay. Item # 170843290093. It has a little over 11K miles on it. They took some real nice pics of this car, with some of thier other Classic cars in the backround. They say it's one of 196 made in Merlot with the Sand interior package and conv. top. It's all stock except some pin striping and they had the 16 spoke machined wheels chromed. I enjoyed looking at the great pics they took with the car up on a rack, good pics of the exhaust system. But I don't think they'll get 32.5K.

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[JAB02LHS]

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Here's an 04 from a vintage car collection in San Diego on Ebay. Item # 170843290093. It has a little over 11K miles on it. They took some real nice pics of this car, with some of thier other Classic cars in the backround. They say it's one of 196 made in Merlot with the Sand interior package and conv. top. It's all stock except some pin striping and they had the 16 spoke machined wheels chromed. I enjoyed looking at the great pics they took with the car up on a rack, good pics of the exhaust system. But I don't think they'll get 32.5K.

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Looks like Bird Poop!
2004 Ford Thunderbird

[V8 Cat]

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[QUOTE=JAB02LHS;476455]Looks like Bird Poop!
2004 Ford Thunderbird

One outstanding looking car - except for the pin stripes. Wish the owner had spent his money on a chrome hood scoop instead of pin stripes! I wonder if they are painted on, and if so, can you remove them without damaging the clearcoat?

[JAB02LHS]

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[QUOTE=V8 Cat;476457]

Looks like Bird Poop!
2004 Ford Thunderbird

One outstanding looking car - except for the pin stripes. Wish the owner had spent his money on a chrome hood scoop instead of pin stripes! I wonder if they are painted on, and if so, can you remove them without damaging the clearcoat?

When I had my Bike, I had it pinstriped by Kafka.
He told me if I got tired of it
that it could be removed with Easy Off oven cleaner with out damage to the paint.

[wcoates]

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Corvettes and Camaros have done right by me over the years. Last toy cars as I have mentioned have been Cadillac Allantes. (Kids thought old age had really set in going from Vettes to Allantes--they are thrilled that Dad has recovered with the T-Bird.)

I see so many similarities between these cars ----Allantes stickered from high 50s to mid 60s for the 21430 cars that were built over 7 model years. Less cars more collectability -right. I was on the Allantenet sight thru 3 cars and 7 years and the posts regarding collectability and value are almost mirror images with this T-Bird sight. Guys yapping about depreciation and declining values and swearing on their children's heads that values will go up! cars were $20,000 for the pristine ones 7 years again and now $10,000 will buy the nicest out there. IMHO rising values will never happen for either of these car platforms.

Enjoyed the Allantes but like the Bird better!!!!! Keep 'em nice but drive the heck outta them on beautiful summer days. Values will continue downward IMHO.

[jerrym3]

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The question then becomes, what will be popular collector cars in the future?

Most colletors purchase cars from their youth, or cars that define an era. A lot of musclecars were sold back then, so today, they have become popular collector cars.

The TBird retro didn't sell nearly as well, so that may impact future collectiblity.

Young guys bought Impalas in the early 60's, not Ford Galaxies. A 64 Galaxie (like mine) is nowhere near the collectibilty level of a 64 Impala.

Cars like the 55/56/57 TBirds and 1959 Cadillacs could be considered as cars that defined an era and have maintained collectibility status.

What cars do today's young folks drive? Twenty five years from now, will the new generation of pony cars (Mustang, Camaro, Challenger) become today's GTOs, Boss 302s, hemi Cuda's, etc?

I can't envision a lineup of today's econocars coming down the BJ or Mecum runway in the year 2037, but who knows?

Wish I could be around to see.

[Rondor]

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The '02 was the first retro, but also the largest number produced. Which of theese facts will effect the price the most? In looking at listings on the net they are very plentiful. I rarely see an 04 or 05 and almost never see a limited edition.

[Leroy]

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WOW! Here's a real deal on EBay. This spotless EB 50th Aniversory TBird at a Ferrari dealer in Tampa, Fla. Ebay item# 180895203397. I wonder what they gave the owner in trade-in value.

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[007Cruiser]

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Too bad it's black.

[Sandman]

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The most expensive Retro Bird on the planet.

Current price:$9,999.00
Buy It Now price:$232,971.00